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By: Motaz

Motaz — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:43:00 +0000

@4a8e3d2eb6b489083cbdeb54c2c37a12:disqus Wow, you’re so civil I doubt I’m on the internet… Anyways, do you have facebook?

By: FF

FF — Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:20:00 +0000

Sorry i don’t have a microsoft account and i don’t intend to get one, so i ‘m posting my response here again, but it would be better if we do this via e-mail:
I don’t know how u came to the conclusion that “we have an agreement that the quran mentioned the big bang and universe expansion” but I think I made it clear that Islamic scholars started using “expansion” after scientists, as all translation I could find using “expansion” (” Maurice Bucaille” in 1976 and , Muhammad Muhsin Khan-born 1927-) was after the use of it in scientific textures about big bang in 1922.
I find “We sent down Iron” part as poetry really, quran uses the same phrase for cows (39-6) and water (23-18) or the quran itself (59-21), I assume u don’t find cows and water or quran extraterrestrial metal.
About the iron isotopes I’m glad u came to that. Iron doesn’t have “almost 5 stable isotopes”, it has 4 stable isotopes 54,56,57,58. I can’t imagine how u consider “arithmetic mean” a method to determine the most important isotope to mention, but it seems to me it makes more sense to mention the 56 isotope which is “more common in the universe”. by the way I do like more numbers and to illustrate the absurdity of 57 miracle watch this – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3KoWsNK3ww –
For the ‘embryo stages” I found this link, it explained everything for me -http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/avijit/Quran_miracle.htm-
And the spider miracle: I read the surah top to bottom in quran.com and tried all translations, looked in several pages that explained the so called miracle, but honestly couldn’t find what u seem to see easily, maybe I am stupid after all!
In the end I find all the miracle claims a matter of misinterpretation and mistranslation, I refuse to settle for the poetry of an age old book with a mixture of some remote, unscientific, inaccurate hints (not to mention tons of linguistic and scientific mistakes and errors- ali-dashti-23-years.tripod.com/-) and accept the detailed, accurate and falsifiable descriptions of science.

By: عمر محمد

عمر محمد — Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:14:00 +0000

I`ll be glad to hear you:
the.navigator@windowslive.com
by the way hats off for you respectful and open minded way in communication.
Waiting for you my friend…..

By: FF

FF — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:02:00 +0000

i have prepared my response to this but i won’t post here anymore, if u want to continue please give me an address for ur free discussion forum or ur e-mail address.

By: عمر محمد

عمر محمد — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:59:00 +0000

By: عمر محمد

عمر محمد — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:56:00 +0000

First: I Suppose we have an agreement point that the quran mentioned the big bang and universe expansion in aright way.
Second (iron verse): I will Tell you more facts on this verse to prove that they aren`t here by coincidence.
Iron has almost 5 stable isotopes (54,56,57,58,60):
http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/fe.html
If you calculated their arithmatic mean you will find it`s mass no 57.
This time guess the number of the Surah.
:)
If you don`t want more numbers any more.
Refer back again to the same Verse:
http://quran.com/57/25
Notice that: Allah Said :” We sent down Iron”
And didn`t say as usual “created”.
That`s because Iron is an extraterrestrial metal that was sent to earth and not formed therein.
http://alquranmiracles.blogspot.com/2009/03/iron-nasa-testifies-to-miracle-of-quran.html
Third (I want easier facts):
Here`s a Muslim that had your same thought
And wanted Allah to make a mirical in front of him to be a muslim
:)

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However Quran is actually full of clear Facts:
The Most famous is the extremely detailed embryo stages
That wasn`t discovered until Sonar and ultrasonic devices were invented
You can see them your self here:
http://quran.com/23
from verse 23:12 to 23:16
And how he Showed the stages as:
1)Sperm
2)clinging clot (precised description)
3)Flesh
4)bones from the flesh (which is contradicts the sense but scientifically true)
5)Covering bones with flesh
And Also when he spoke about spider home here:
http://quran.com/29/41
( العنكبوت اتخذت بيتا)
He mentioned it`s female because the female is the one that makes the webbed home not the male.
Although the usual is that: Spider is amale pronoun in Arabic language.
and here`s non-muslim scientists spoke about these facts:

You can always see these facts here:
http://www.quranandscience.com/
and youtube is full of athiests who converted to islam
you can see them and see why they did that.
See this Series You will like it much:

:)

By: lolcat

lolcat — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:41:00 +0000

HBD GOOGLE! LONG LIVE GOOGLE!

By: Shery

Shery — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:04:00 +0000

Well, I like Google a lot but due to its stubborn nature of making money from everywhere whether right or wrong makes me feel bad to use Google. They refused to remove that anti Islam video from YouTube is not such a good thing b/c as long as the video is there people will watch it and that will make money to Google. Yes i admit, like everyone they are here for business but they must stop making business on religion basis.

By: FF

FF — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:22:00 +0000

Meanwhile here is my response to the so called iron miracle:
The equivalence of atomic number of iron and mathematical value of the word “alhadid” in abjad system can be called Arabic language miracle not quran’s.
Not to mention the history of Abjad numerals which is way after quran was written down and the fact that it is not math derivative but made upon agreement. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad_numerals-
About the number of times the word “god” is mentioned in the surah: dosen’t it seem weird to u that the only surah u r counting bismallah as a verse is only this one? Since without it this number is 25.
-http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/atomic-number-of-iron/-
The order which the verses are sorted in quran is not either alphabetic or based of the time the verses was revealed (which contradicts common sense) – ali-dashti-23-years.tripod.com/-
So I’m considering the iron miracle a mixture of coincidence and desperate attempts to invent some sort of sense to the word of almighty creator that should be able to impress us more deeply and more easily.

By: FF

FF — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 05:06:00 +0000

again thank u for ur thorough reply, but as schiz0id mentioned this is a tech forum and we better take this to a free discussion forum or via e-mail, so if u give me an address for ur free discussion forum or ur e-mail address we will continue this chat.