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	<title>Comments on: AMD reports net loss of $473 million in Q4 2012</title>
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		<title>By: BongCastaneda</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-703555</link>
		<dc:creator>BongCastaneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys got it partly wrong.
Intel is still pulling the same shenanigans with OEM manufacturers when it comes to AMD products.
Just look at the zacate E family of fusion APUs ( e350, e450 etc)
The E series slaughtered the Atom family in every way possible even price yet many Brands like Acer, Dell etc still used the Atom for majority of their netbooks and other low end devices.
Why? 
according to my friend working for Acer&#039;s Logistics department, Intel immediately implemented 
a lower priced volume purchase scheme with retro price rollbacks even for already purchased lots of Atoms. Meaning if you subscribe to their pre-sell of Atom orders, they will offer you rebates on the Atoms you already have.
Imagine how the OEMs reacted.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys got it partly wrong.<br />
Intel is still pulling the same shenanigans with OEM manufacturers when it comes to AMD products.<br />
Just look at the zacate E family of fusion APUs ( e350, e450 etc)<br />
The E series slaughtered the Atom family in every way possible even price yet many Brands like Acer, Dell etc still used the Atom for majority of their netbooks and other low end devices.<br />
Why?<br />
according to my friend working for Acer&#8217;s Logistics department, Intel immediately implemented<br />
a lower priced volume purchase scheme with retro price rollbacks even for already purchased lots of Atoms. Meaning if you subscribe to their pre-sell of Atom orders, they will offer you rebates on the Atoms you already have.<br />
Imagine how the OEMs reacted.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo Arellano</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-703303</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo Arellano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I bought the Toshiba Notebook L855 (Im from Mexico and its a little bit expensive) and its brign the AMD A10 CPU whit Ati (XD) GPU, I love it &#039;cause run WoW nice in high,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I bought the Toshiba Notebook L855 (Im from Mexico and its a little bit expensive) and its brign the AMD A10 CPU whit Ati (XD) GPU, I love it &#8217;cause run WoW nice in high,</p>
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		<title>By: ccsvchost</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702803</link>
		<dc:creator>ccsvchost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[isn&#039;t that only in the wii? im pretty sure the ps4 will have NVidia again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t that only in the wii? im pretty sure the ps4 will have NVidia again</p>
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		<title>By: ccsvchost</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702801</link>
		<dc:creator>ccsvchost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you spelt it wrong]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you spelt it wrong</p>
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		<title>By: ccsvchost</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702799</link>
		<dc:creator>ccsvchost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would use ati cards only if the drivers didn&#039;t stuff up sometimes. the last ati card I had was a hd 4350 and it had a problem with 1080p hdmi output.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would use ati cards only if the drivers didn&#8217;t stuff up sometimes. the last ati card I had was a hd 4350 and it had a problem with 1080p hdmi output.</p>
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		<title>By: intvidia</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702773</link>
		<dc:creator>intvidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to deal with used laptops and its well known that ATI in laptops is a bad thing, they just dont last. We see tons of broken laptops like ThinkPad and HP NC series that cannot be fixed due to the ATI chips disintegrating. These are generally good laptops with intel processors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to deal with used laptops and its well known that ATI in laptops is a bad thing, they just dont last. We see tons of broken laptops like ThinkPad and HP NC series that cannot be fixed due to the ATI chips disintegrating. These are generally good laptops with intel processors.</p>
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		<title>By: intvidia</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702767</link>
		<dc:creator>intvidia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats true for the newer types, but as you know, ivy bridge core i3 competes with 6 core AMDs in many things, if for example image and video editing is an area of interest then AMDs are so weak and useless that its hard to understand why they sell CPUs at all. You sure do not buy with the head when you go for AMD. 

And the old i3s did 50% OC on air, stable. Sometimes more but it was hard to get the bclk high enough on some, and thats nothing new, its like the FSB walls on lga775, old problems always come back in new wrappings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats true for the newer types, but as you know, ivy bridge core i3 competes with 6 core AMDs in many things, if for example image and video editing is an area of interest then AMDs are so weak and useless that its hard to understand why they sell CPUs at all. You sure do not buy with the head when you go for AMD. </p>
<p>And the old i3s did 50% OC on air, stable. Sometimes more but it was hard to get the bclk high enough on some, and thats nothing new, its like the FSB walls on lga775, old problems always come back in new wrappings.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702766</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At all, to have an opponent in your branch is very, very good. You can easily compare opponents products with yours. To be lonely on the market doesn&#039;t mean that you are the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At all, to have an opponent in your branch is very, very good. You can easily compare opponents products with yours. To be lonely on the market doesn&#8217;t mean that you are the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702718</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well AMD is supplying most probably GPUs for the PS4 and xbox 720 so that will maybe boost their business for a while. The problem is that for cpus most ppl do not even know the existence of AMD cpu&#039;s at least in my country it&#039;s like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well AMD is supplying most probably GPUs for the PS4 and xbox 720 so that will maybe boost their business for a while. The problem is that for cpus most ppl do not even know the existence of AMD cpu&#8217;s at least in my country it&#8217;s like this.</p>
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		<title>By: blomber</title>
		<link>http://blog.gsmarena.com/amd-reports-net-loss-of-473-million-in-q4-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-702711</link>
		<dc:creator>blomber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah I agree, but the reason is AMD didn&#039;t have expertise in mobile area.
and their mobile division was bought by qualcomm years ago (adreno).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah I agree, but the reason is AMD didn&#8217;t have expertise in mobile area.<br />
and their mobile division was bought by qualcomm years ago (adreno).</p>
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